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High Road Conversations · Episode 1

Be a River, Not a Reservoir

A conversation with Professor Jeff Willie

About this conversation

Jeff Willie turned sixty and decided, out loud, that he plans to keep working until he is a hundred and ten. It is not a punchline for him. It is a working philosophy, and it runs underneath everything we talked about.

Jeff spent fifteen years teaching high school JROTC and now keynotes and consults with school districts across Texas and beyond. The idea he keeps returning to is one he borrows from John Maxwell: be a river, not a reservoir. A reservoir holds what it has and lets none of it move. A river takes everything in and pushes it back out, leaving the ground downstream better for having had it pass through. Jeff has built a career out of pouring what he knows into other people rather than storing it, and he makes a point of never trying to be the smartest person in a room, only the most useful one in it.

We get into why age is mostly a question of mindset, and how the leaders who pour into the people around them tend to outlast the ones who quietly hoard what they know. It is a conversation about generosity as a leadership discipline, and it holds up whether you are running a classroom or a company.